tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940841.post7384006584798116771..comments2024-02-02T07:41:55.155-05:00Comments on The Headpiece for the Staff of Ra: Nussbaum on ButlerMosBenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14396378353702882073noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940841.post-91109075773694083052012-04-23T02:21:56.915-04:002012-04-23T02:21:56.915-04:00for me the feminism world should be treated fairly...for me the feminism world should be treated fairly... dont make any judgment without proper research on this topic... <br /><br />Find info on <a href="http://howtomakeyourhair-growfaster.com" rel="nofollow">How To Make Your Hair Grow Faster Tips</a> from my blog !!How to Make Your Hair Grow Fasterhttp://howtomakeyourhair-growfaster.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940841.post-4106270700316103442011-02-18T09:18:24.010-05:002011-02-18T09:18:24.010-05:00any person with common sense can't denied the ...any person with common sense can't denied the true in this, all the problem show it in this articles are the daily life for many, a great disgrace.Buy Cialishttp://www.safemeds.com/generic-cialis.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940841.post-91258999227873862782007-04-10T22:15:00.000-04:002007-04-10T22:15:00.000-04:00Ok, I take it back, after flipping through Gender ...Ok, I take it back, after flipping through Gender Trouble again, I wouldn't say Butler is separatist, though there might be tendencies. She has a much more radical agenda that is actually best summarized in exactly what you said "Short skirts and combat boots: How to fight patriarchy by dressing in drag" She actually wants people to take action by defying gender norms in real, tangible, and visible ways.<BR/>Remember Queer Nation's Kiss-ins? Were here, were queer, get used to it.<BR/>Butler advocates a similar in your face kind of approach. <BR/>I love it. I wish I was brave enough to do it. I hate that I am so attached to shaving my legs, and according to Butler am reenacting my oppression every damn morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940841.post-82589100332737053412007-04-10T02:45:00.000-04:002007-04-10T02:45:00.000-04:00You have to at least READ Gender Trouble yourself ...You have to at least READ Gender Trouble yourself though before you go so far as to call her *not* a feminist. I generally think its not a good practice to cast judgment on someone's work by reading a critique of that work. Esp when the judgment is as harsh as not being everything they themselves claim to be. We have to give people a little credit. <BR/>I think Butler would tend towards separatism. Since when is lesbian separatism not feminism? This is a mainstay in the history of the movement. I first came to a knowledge of feminism by reading Mary Daly--though Im not sure if she is a lesbian, her intentional not admitting of male students to her classes at Boston College rocked my world. And women leaving the church to form their own church--damn that blew my 18 year old mind.<BR/>Basically, I have serious concerns about airing views about someone, esp in a public domain, that are taken primarily on the negative determinations of someone else. <BR/>Overall, I like Nussbaums work, but she has moved in such a Rawlsian direction lately that I long for the days when she spoke of the "fragility of virtue." Where is that Nussbaum? I miss her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940841.post-72728288247181306842007-04-07T10:40:00.000-04:002007-04-07T10:40:00.000-04:00Nussbaum acknowledges that Butler has some very im...Nussbaum acknowledges that Butler has some very important theoretical insights: gender injustice is a much more deeply-rooted problem than classical liberal feminism can deal with. But what I'm getting from Nussbaum is the sense that there's something wrong with any totally theoretical, purely academic stance towards issues of sexism (and justice in general). In Marx's epigram, ,,Die Philosophen haben die Welt nur verschieden interpretiert; es koemmt darauf an, sie zu veraendern.'' Butler has a very interesting interpretation, but completely falls down when it comes time to fight for change. <BR/><BR/>I actually have a very big-tent attitude towards feminism. I'm willing to include liberal feminists, libertarian feminists, antiliberal feminists of the MacKinnon variety, and everyone in between. I'm a man who calls himself a feminist, but I'm happy to share a table with `pro-feminist' and `feminist ally' men and any lesbian separatists who happen to still be around. I'm even willing to give Edith Stein fans, Feminists for Life, Christina Hoff Sommers, and Camille Paglia consideration, though I'm damn suspicious that they're just appropriating the language of feminism for conservative ends. Feminists can disagree, even radically disagree, and still be held together by their feminism. <BR/><BR/>There are only two attitudes I find inconsistent with feminism. The first is to deny the reality of gender-based injustice. That's why I find the Pussycat Dolls ad copy so nauseating. The second is to recognise injustice, but maintain there's nothing we can do about it. That's the attitude Butler takes, and that's why I don't think we should call her a feminist. I'd be willing, even happy, to endorse a feminist appropriation of her work -- <EM>Short skirts and combat boots: How to fight patriarchy by dressing in drag</EM> would be great, if it could actually make a difference. But I don't think that book's been written.Noumenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02442204504120141558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940841.post-45114823824670021942007-04-05T21:31:00.000-04:002007-04-05T21:31:00.000-04:00What is "genuine feminism"? Since the history of f...What is "genuine feminism"? Since the history of feminism has been the history of women pointing out sexism to not only men, but to fellow women, I would balk at a term like "genuine feminism" for the very reason that it seems to narrow the range of women's experiences which we are willing to consider as being authentic.<BR/>Also, I have to say I hate how feminists attack other feminists personally, Nussbaum says, "Well, parodic performance is not so bad when you are a powerful tenured academic in a liberal university."<BR/>Are you kidding me? This is why I hate academia and sometimes feel like I want the hell out. <BR/>I think Nussbaum makes some valid points, but Butler opened my eyes to many aspects of gender that I had never even thought of before. She challenges liberal feminists to recognize that oppression goes beyond the lack of civil liberties and political rights. We re-enact our oppression every day. Yes, this means oppression is that much harder to undo. But this prespective prevents us from over-simplifying the solution. A tendency I think most liberal feminists fall prey to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com