September 08, 2005

Let's get fisky!

I just have to copy my comment on this post. Sorry if it's not terribly clear what's going on based on this; go read, then come back here.

More fascinating—in one of those it takes modern social studies to affirm the obvious—is that the whole "reproductive health" information has been skewered in favor of the girls and that boys have been completely marginalized. Gee, sounds like an awful lot like schools with their anti-boy attitudes, doesn't it?


Historically and globally, birth control and maternal health have been an almost strictly female affair. The movement to disseminate reliable information on sex and reproductive health really in this country was really started by feminist activists. Since their primary concern was women's health, and they were predominantly women teaching women, yes, they didn't care too much about making sure men were fully educated. But by no means does it follow that they were anti-male! Like many antifeminists, your conflation of feminism with misandry does nothing more than display your ignorance of feminism.

So contraception inadventently shields boys from the consequences of impregnating their girlfriends


Inadvertently? Preventing pregnancy is precisely the point of contraception. Hence the name 'contraception'.

thus, further entrenching the teen boys' total indifference to fatherhood and other forms of responsibility.


/snark
Yes, using contraception to do what they can to keep from being fathers before they're ready is a textbook example of irresponsibility.
/snark
Huh? This is completely incoherent.

nowhere does the article ever raise another option—abstinence


It's a study of sexually active teenagers. It's rather hard to use abstinence as your birth control method, given that you're sexually active, without giving up the sex part.

after all, why should society encourage self-control and patience with respect to sex? That would put Planned Parenthood out of business as it could no longer justify the exorbitant tax subsidies the American federal government grants for sexual "health advice," abortions, and contraception.


Here is PPUSA's page on Birth Control. It's one level under the front page. Abstinence is TWO of the first four methods of birth control listed on this page.

Another social-scientist-states-the-obvious paragraph is when it highlights how a boy's attitudes towards sex and whether or not he favors pregnancy influences the girls' attitudes towards birth and abortion.


What paragraph is this? Could you provide at least a quoted phrase that we could search? I'm not seeing it. It certainly seems an odd conclusion to draw from a study in which only boys were interviewed, so I'd want to see their reasoning in more detail.

Worse, the boys would reimpose patriarchial authority and that's far more horrifying! Imagine! Stable loving families with loving parents who dote on their kids.


What does patriarchal authority have to do with stable, loving families and parents who love their kids? Plenty of straight, 'father knows best' families are dysfunctional -- conservative Christian marriages break up as often as any others, after all -- and plenty of egalitarian straight and gay families are filled with love and raise awesome kids.

Even better is the gratuitious class snobbery: boys most likely to be positive towards pregnancy are from 'less-educated' mothers. Nice subtle potshot at moms who adhere to traditional values or typical views of sex, pregnancy and birth.


I assume you're talking about this paragraph: "Teens who actively planned on impregnating - or thought they might do so accidentally - tended to be less negative about pregnancy in general, and came from families with relatively less-educated mothers, the researchers added." Why are you making the classist assumption that less-educated mothers hold 'traditional' values of sex, pregnancy, and birth? This article just reports a correlation, it offers no explanation whatsoever -- perhaps these young men have seen how hard it is to raise children on the limited income someone who didn't go to college is liable to have.

[I would point out that very few people ever respond to the comments I make on that blog.]

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